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Why dub SSJ2 Gohan's transformation sucks

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Why dub SSJ2 Gohan's transformation sucks

Post by Sawyer Returns on Fri 28 Nov 2008, 10:36 pm

This is an excerpt from my sub/dub comparisons:

DBZ episode 184

Japanese title: “The Tragic No. 16!! An Enraged Super Gohan Begins Taking Action”
English title: “Cell Juniors Attack!”


Well, this is the episode where Funi ruined a scene so much that it went from a beautiful scene, possibly the best scene in the entire series, to a generic, boring and bland transformation scene that just really sucks.

First, there’s the innner monologue. In the original, he is silent, but in the dub Gohan starts talking to himself about how he needs to unlock his power to save everyone. THAT’S NOT HOW GOHAN’S INNER POWERS HAVE WORKED, NOR WILL THEY WORK THAT WAY NOW! Gohan’s powers are released in a sudden explosion of anger, of which he himself has no control over. No stupid crap about letting it slip. Just like in real life, when you enter a rage fit, you don’t think “time to rage now!”, you just start punching everything in your sight, without using your mind at all.

Then there’s the horrible dub music. Stupid shitty elevator music that we’ve heard a thousand times already. In the original a song is played in the background, sung by Hironobu Kageyama. It’s a great song, and perfect for this scene. I don’t feel like posting the lyrics, but it’s about an evil soul appearing, releasing your well of power and fighting with all the strength you have. But Funi doesn’t realise what good means so they fuck over the whole scene with their shit.

Then the narrator cuts in immediately after the initial transformation. The narrator’s tale is actually quite epic and gets you fired up for the next episode. He’s pretty much the only saving grace of this whole debacle. ...he does say that Gohan is 11 years old though.

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Post by Bumble on Fri 28 Nov 2008, 11:01 pm

How many times are you going to say this? This must be at least the 3rd topic you've made about this since we all started foruming together.

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Post by justinlynch3 on Fri 28 Nov 2008, 11:24 pm

Bumble wrote:How many times are you going to say this? This must be at least the 3rd topic you've made about this since we all started foruming together.


I agree, I have felt that I've read this before, and like before, I find Funi episodes epic enough. Is japense episodes better, quite possibly yes. But I hate reading subtitles, and will probly alway's hate reading subtitles. So an english version of DBZ will alway's be #1 to me.

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Post by Sawyer Returns on Fri 28 Nov 2008, 11:36 pm

Bumble wrote:How many times are you going to say this? This must be at least the 3rd topic you've made about this since we all started foruming together.


3rd? More like 10th.

And that's not counting the topics I made about season covers, Funi idiocies and Zymemaru's dub loving.

AND I WILL CONTINUE DOING IT TILL PEOPLE REALISE I'M RIGHT.

Kenshi will be so proud of me. Cool

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Post by SimianWonder on Sat 29 Nov 2008, 12:18 am

Speaking of things that have been said before;

SSj2 Kid Gohan > All

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Re: Why dub SSJ2 Gohan's transformation sucks

Post by Sawyer Returns on Sat 29 Nov 2008, 12:21 am

Mystic Gohan is better.

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Post by Bumble on Sat 29 Nov 2008, 12:21 am

Goten and Trunks are where it's at.

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Post by SimianWonder on Sat 29 Nov 2008, 12:25 am

King Piccolo wrote:Mystic Gohan is better.


I'd like to agree, but at least SSJ2 Gohan actually did something. Chou Gohan whupped Buu, got cocky, got his arse kicked, then got absorbed.

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Post by Sawyer Returns on Sat 29 Nov 2008, 12:26 am

...

Even Baal is more mature than those two.

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Post by SimianWonder on Sat 29 Nov 2008, 12:27 am

Goten and chibi Trunks are horrible, horrible characters.

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